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Poster: clashcity Date: Jan 20, 2014 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I got your GROK right here...JOTS, Dire, SDH...

The better team won that game, unfortunately.

Too bad Sherman is not quite accustomed to being a winner yet. If he was he would've handled himself like one.

Manning will shut him up.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 20, 2014 10:42am
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Oh I agree - he was a goober. Otoh, I just watched First Take and they showed another angle of the scene and it's pretty clear he came up to Crabtree, patted him on the butt and then came around and stuck his hand out to shake. That's when he got shoved in the face and I think it set him off.

And I don't know if the better team won. Seattle has no offense and there was a lot of luck and bad calls involved.

The Super Bowl could be decided by the weather more than anything.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 22, 2014 11:11am
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One has to wonder if the comment that accompanied that butt slap wasn't something like, "Good job, Loser." And you don't butt slap the man you just beat in the end zone to end the game.. Hand shake, I wouldn't shake his hand either, figuring he had the knife in his other hand.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 22, 2014 12:17pm
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Well who knows. As I noted previously they have history.

What is unfortunate is that his comments surely qualify as one of the more minimal crimes of the recent past yet it has taken complete hold of the social media and the situation has again devolved from a stupid comment in the moment to one of racial overtones. I'm afraid from my old person perspective, this is one the down sides of the uber-connected society we now have. Everyone gets to say in public whatever bad things they have on their minds. And there is a lot of it.

On to the next. How about that Kevin Durant?

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 22, 2014 2:29pm
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hope you realize the knife comment was tongue in cheek and related to the history between these two

my problem with Sherman is that he is just too full of himself ala TO

However, I do think the NFL is a haven for thugs of many racial backgrounds

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 23, 2014 10:02am
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Actually, we do now know exactly what was said. Seems Sherman was wearing a mic and his comments can now be heard online. And they also have a different camera angle as well. As he extended his hand toward Crabtree, Sherman can clearly be heard to say, "Hell of a game. Hell of a game." That is when Crabtree "mushed" him. Seems first opinions are quite like assumptions. I have also read some more about Sherman, and it does appear he is not the @$$ he appeared to be in his post game interview.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 23, 2014 12:58pm
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And I can also understand Crabtree really really not wanting to be friendly right at that point either. But no one made a big deal of him shoving a hand into Sherman's face.

Heck, this little thing in a football game has morphed into a Rorschach test for our current media. One thing I keep remembering - I've you can't do it, go into commentating. :)

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 23, 2014 11:12am
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Another article....this one came out within a day or two of the game.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommytomlinson/2014/01/19/22-brief-thoughts-about-that-richard-sherman-interview/

I stood on the couch and cheered after the interview. I'm a life long Cowboys fan and I'm rooting for the 'Hawks.

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Poster: clashcity Date: Jan 20, 2014 3:53pm
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I was trying to be nice... Seattle, I can't stand.

Sherman was undoubtedly jawing at Crabtree while trying to appear sportsmanlike.

The game was lost by Kaepernick making horrible decisions. I wish we would've kept Alex Smith.

The hybrid QB is not the way to victory. Look at the real champions and great QBs in the NFL...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 20, 2014 4:53pm
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"Sherman was undoubtedly jawing at Crabtree while trying to appear sportsmanlike."

I think you're giving him too much credit for being devious in the heat of the moment. Not many folks pat you on the butt, stick out their hand to shake, and yell at you. Around here the word is that Crabtree tried to start a fight with Sherman in the off-season at a charity event. They've got history.

As far as the hybrid qb goes, I think the jury is out. I think your reference to real champions and great QBs focuses on the fact that the game was played a certain way and it has now changed. I think the key part is decision making. I'd like my odds with a mobile QB who can also pass in the pocket. And Kaepernick is not even a 2 year man. He runs like a gazelle and has a rocket arm. It's a complex position and he'll learn. Alex Smith would have been destroyed by Seattle's front line.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Jan 21, 2014 4:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I got your GROK right here...JOTS, Dire, SDH...

Manning could only manage 26 points at home, in perfect weather, against a team, after the knee shot on Talib, that had zip for defense. How are they gonna deal with an 11 man madhouse where every player is the likes of Talib? Even the subs. Going to knee shot them all? It is one thing to talk trash, another to intentionally injure the other teams best defensive player...one of those is surely a classy move. Self-righteous indignation is like sloppy seconds here.

The Hawk's average pedestrian offense scored just about as much against a really, really, REALLY Stout, angry, stud infested SF defense. Looking forward to facing a below average defense for the first time in well over a month.

The Hawks are 100% healthy as well.

An interesting stat. The QB that throws for the most yards in any particular season - has never won the Superbowl.

Joe Montana won his first superbowl after throwing only 17 TD passes the whole season. = balanced team.

Statistics are for the regular season - Just ask Tom and Randy. Defense is for the post season...kind of like baseball and pitching.

Sherman is obviously tempting Manning to go after him, should be interesting to see how the head games play out, if Manning goes "after" Sherman then the Hawks win easily. If he sticks to his game plan it will be quite a contest.

If nothing else, it will be compelling television drama.

Let it snow let it snow let it snow!

http://www.theredzone.org/Features/NFLStrengthofSchedule.aspx

Strength of Schedule explains a lot about padded #s





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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 22, 2014 3:54pm
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I've looked at that Talib play a dozen times and I just don't buy that it was deliberate. This guy, who was out for the last two weeks with a concussion and playing with an oversized helmet to protect himself taking on someone who outweighs him by 30. But who am I to question Belichik.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 22, 2014 4:07pm
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No one should question him until they know how to cheat properly...

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/165712/how-do-i-reach-these-kids

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 22, 2014 7:00pm
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Bill do - but is he worse than Sean Payton?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 22, 2014 7:06pm
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who dat?

bounties...

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 22, 2014 7:44pm
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Yeah, I think that's worse.

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Poster: clashcity Date: Jan 22, 2014 12:55pm
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It also took the Niners completely screwing themselves and 2 horrible calls for that "11 man madhouse" + average offense to come away with the victory.

If you for a minute think the Seahawks won that game more than the Niners gave it away you are sorely mistaken.

Any yes, the Seahawks offense scored 20-7 in the second half but it is also well know that the, at times, poorly operating Niners offense will result in an over-worked defense that fades late in the game.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Jan 22, 2014 12:57pm
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yeah, I felt the same way after Super Bowl XL - didn't change a damn thing.

The Hawks defense had absolutely nothing at all to do with it...especially Sherman. I sure hope the Broncos are getting just as wound up about him as everybody else.

Kaep is a punk, hope he gets an infection from his next tat. The one that reads "don't throw at Sherman" just so he remembers for next year.

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Poster: clashcity Date: Jan 22, 2014 7:11pm
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Good grief man. I think you might be running low on Vitamin D.

It'll be ok once you get to see the sun again in, what? about 4 months....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEBCS006HvA



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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 21, 2014 6:43pm
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One datum for ya: my Vikings...so-so q-b, best D EVER, & they lost four times...?

Explain that...

But, I grant ur argument on Joe M & the niners...defn balanced.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Jan 22, 2014 12:27pm
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they played against teams with equal defenses to theirs:

The No-Names
The Steel Curtain
The Atkinson/Tatum assassins

All are as historic as the Purple People Eaters. We'll see if the Legion of Boom gets to chisel their name into that stone.

Only the game against the Raiders had any real scoring - a bit by the defense - Go Willie Go! The others were pure defensive struggles between the best defenses of the year...like the one coming up will be, well on one side anyway. The #1 offense rarely wins the super bowl, but the #1 defense has many times.

I was a Steeler fan living in the Bay Area for that one. We were on vacation for the playoff game against the Steelers and my friend was house sitting for us - well we came home to a house decorated with all manner of Raider paraphernalia. I got even by making a 20 foot banner reading :

"California Home of the Vikings fan club" or some such.

And draped it across their garage door at 4am on Super Sunday. The newspaper guy didn't deliver their paper, neighbors soaped their cars, they said they couldn't figure out why all these cars kept honking outside their house, and they got numerous doorbell ditchers. My friends Dad - a Raider insider - was most displeased.

20 degrees with 30mph winds and sideways freezing rain should be just the ticket. Right now they are calling for 60% chance of snow by the 31st. Come on weather!

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 22, 2014 11:09am
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I'm not sure anything can shut Kanye Sherman's mouth.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 20, 2014 11:21am
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Interesting that Sherman is a Stanford grad that went back to school in off season to finish his degree while in the NFL - and began work on a masters. From Compton to Palo Alto quite a journey…

And I agree re Maning shutting him up.

Are we allowed to talk football?

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Poster: clashcity Date: Jan 20, 2014 4:00pm
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We are allowed. I think... getting away with it so far at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0QfXHEqX_0

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 22, 2014 11:15am
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Just goes to show you can take the boy out of Compton, but you can't get Compton out of the boy. Working on his Masters? In what, "Thugonomics"?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 22, 2014 11:46am
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I think there is lot to the fact that he is "the story" this week in the lead up to the super bowl. he's smart enough to know "branding".

http://thebiglead.com/2014/01/20/its-possible-to-like-richard-sherman-and-to-not-have-liked-his-michael-crabtree-rant/

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 22, 2014 11:54am
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It's all about the Benjamin's, baby.


Marketing genius. T.O., step aside.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 22, 2014 11:59am
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and when neon deion starts talking about how much he loves sherman...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 22, 2014 3:03pm
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I read the article, and he may not be the thug he likes to portray himself as. But he is as cocky as Michael Irvin and TO. However it seems that, like Deion, he backs up a lot of his trash talk.

Maybe he should heed Proverbs 16: 18(KJV)...
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
I think Deion, Michael and TO learned that the hard way.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 23, 2014 9:08am
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I ordered a Richard Sherman jersey less than three minutes after his interview......

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 23, 2014 9:26am
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Mission Accomplished.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 23, 2014 10:59am
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SDH -

Maybe it's just me, but I found Sherman's 'outburst' to be refreshing. Much better than the painfully rehearsed cliche spewing jack wagons we typically get.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommytomlinson/2014/01/19/22-brief-thoughts-about-that-richard-sherman-interview/

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 23, 2014 11:44am
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I agree. Disagree or not with what he said, I'd rather have someone being "real" than spewing the normal, canned drivel.

Beats the living crap out of another "And I'd like to give all the credit to (insert religious reference here, don't want to offend those easily offended)". Screw that. "He" didn't break up the pass. You did. You think "He" cares about a damn football game? Don't give yourself so much credit. And...shit, I got off track again. Sorry.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 24, 2014 8:02am
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"And I'd like to give all the credit to (insert religious reference here, don't want to offend those easily offended)". Screw that. "He" didn't break up the pass."

Of course He didn't break up the pass.....

Everyone knows God plays left tackle. Ask Anthony Munoz if you don't believe me.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 24, 2014 8:09am
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And if I recall, Jehovah was recently moved to fullback. Jesus is still on IR, but I hear his "Roman Turf Toe" is healing nicely.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 23, 2014 12:45pm
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Who looks bad now?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/23/richard-sherman-micd--up-michael-crabtree_n_4640849.html

All i know, it's several days after the game and all the NFL talk is still focused on Sherman...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 23, 2014 12:54pm
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I'd rather be talking about this sideshow than what happened (or DIDN'T happen) in Denver. I'd say it stunk, but the smells were actually quite fragrant.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 23, 2014 1:40pm
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I kept from joining in since I hated what he did for the sheer departure from TRUE old school approaches...his reference to HE is old school?!?? What a joke.

Racism aside, a self aggrandizing absolute jerk of a snodfart grad; as if the uni producing them has ANY significance these days! We pump them out w NO real education, let me assure you...BUT I will grant that it isn't that different than ANY of the ones that yell and scream after a game. Or, as you and MJ note, the "God is Great, and deserves the credit" sorts; those are equally grotesque.

In my day, we'd have had NONE Of it...those displays are completely unacceptable. It's a sport. You make money that is obscene. Kept it to yourself.

Put me down for NOTHING is appropriate but a hand shake and good game comment at MOST.

Look to Jerry West and Bill Russell for appropriate expression of emotion before, after and during a game of any kind, win lose or draw.

Hockey players exempted; it's not a game w them anyway...

;)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 23, 2014 2:01pm
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You don't need to assure me about the no real education thing…

http://tracking.si.com/2014/01/17/former-unc-football-player-academic-counselors-led-to-no-show-classes/

But how a 18 year old can pass through high school without acquiring a basic level of literacy and then be admitted to do college level work is a whole other scam.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 24, 2014 8:27am
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It's getting a lot worse in Chapel Hill...
http://m.chronicle.com/article/Chapel-Hill-Researcher-s/144169/?cid=at&;utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 24, 2014 8:51am
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http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/24/news/companies/richard-sherman-rant/index.html?iid=HP_LN

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 24, 2014 9:05am
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The more I read about RS, the more I like the guy.....

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/21/us/richard-sherman-response/

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 20, 2014 6:58pm
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Only if you think ice hockey thoughts at the same time. I'm thinking brawls, so here goes.

I don't think the key is Manning shutting him up. It's what his receivers will do when they get plowed on patterns and how the refs call it. In the past weekend the announcers kept noting "they're letting them play." If so, less of a Manning advantage.